Friday, November 29, 2013

Comment on the self-proclaimed Yamani in response to his claim against the twelver scholar

Ahmad al-Hassan say:

With what right did you proclaim yourselves as representatives of the Imam al-Mahdi (as)? And how did you make the Taqlid mandatory (Wajib) otherwise actions (A'mal) are not accepted?

You take people as donkeys, you tell them that Taqlid is mandatory and the Ahlul-Bayt (as) are those who ordered you to do that. And for that you use narrations that were told in concealment of faith (Taqiyyah) and you abandoned tens of narration against following (doing Taqlid of) the non-infallibles except what is narrated by an Infallible.

بأي حق نصبتم انفسكم نوابا عن الامام المهدي ع ؟ وكيف جعلتم التقليد لكم واجب لا تقبل الاعمال الا به ؟

تستحمرون الناس وتقولون ان التقليد واجب و تقولون لهم ان اهل البيت ع امروكم بذلك ...و تستدلون برواية وردت تقية وتتركون عشرات الروايات التي تمنع تقليد غير المعصوم ع الا فيما يرويه عن المعصوم ؟!؟!
- Jurist of the end of day, official website of Ahmad al-Hassan.



The commentary of what he said is in two part.

First, he ask the twelver scholar [With what right did you proclaim yourselves as representatives of the Imam al-Mahdi (as)? And how did you make the Taqlid mandatory (Wajib) otherwise actions (A'mal) are not accepted?] I am asking him the same question: - by what right did you proclaim yourself as a successor of Imam al-Mahdi? And how did you make the Taqlid mandatory (Wajib) to you otherwise actions (A'mal) are not accepted? So if he says he has evidence to what he proclaims, we answer to him that we and the twelver scholars (Maraji') also have (evidence).

Second, Ahmad says [You take people as donkeys, you tell them that Taqlid is mandatory and theAhlul-Bayt (as) are those who ordered you to do that. And for that you use narratives that were told in concealment of faith (Taqiyyah) and you abandoned tens of narrations against following (doing Taqlid of) the non-infallibles except what is narrated by an Infallible.] This question is also to Ahmad al-Hassan as he ask this question to Shia scholars, and how did he know that these narrations were under concealement of faith (Taqiyyah)? And what is the balance as to whether a narration was under concealment of faith or if it was not? And then how can we combine the concealement of faith and infallibility? This raise another question, his word that the narrations were under concealement of faith has no evidence, and therefore it is possible for scholars that they also say that the narrations that Ahmad al-Hassan uses are under concealement of faith, so if he demand evidence that this was under concealement of faith we ask that he gives what he ask on the narrations that he refused.

At the end we come to several conclusions, that there is narrations about Taqlid of non-infallible according to him, he also gives no proof of what he says and what he says can be used against him. Is this how the Imam were? Is this how they used to answer the people i.e. without proof?

Monday, November 25, 2013

Invalidation of the proclamations of Ahmad al-Hassan and his Ansar on the twelve Mahdis narration

He (Ahmad al-Hassan) claim that he is the promised Yamani and he is one of the twelve Mahdis after al-Hujjah Ibn al-Hassan, to authenticate his claim he use a narration that is in the book of al-Tusi - which is Kitab al-Ghayba:



A great number told us, from Abi 'Abdallah al-Hussein Ibn Ali Ibn Sufyan al-Bazufry, from Ali Ibn Sinan al-Musali al-'Adl, from Ali Ibn al-Hussein, from Ahmad Ibn Muhammad Ibn al-Khalil, from Ja'far Ibn Ahmad al-Masry, from his uncle al-Hassan Ibn Ali, from his father, from Abi Abdallah Ja'far Ibn Muhammad, from his father al-Baqir, from his father Dhi al-Thifnat Sayed al-'Abidin, from his father al-Hussein al-Zaki al-Shahid, from his father Amir al-Muminin:
The Prophet Muhammad (may peace be upon him and his family) said to Ali Ibn Abi Taleb during the night of his death: "O Father of Al Hassan, bring me a paper and a utensil", and he dictated his will until he came to a position where he said "O Ali, there will be twelve Imams and after them there will be twelve Mahdi's. You, O Ali, are the first of the twelve Imams, God has named you in his heavens Ali Al Mortada,The Prince of the believers, Grand truthful, the bright Farooq (Judge and differentiating between true and false), the trusted, and the Mahdi (rightly guided). These names may not be truly attributed to other than you. O Ali, you are my guardian on my own family, their living and their dead. My women, whom you maintain shall find me tomorrow, and whom you reject I am acquitted of her. I will not see her and she will not see me on the day of resurrection, and you are the successor (Khalifa) on my nation after me. If the day of death comes to you, hand it over to my son Hassan the very beneficial. Then if the day of death comes to him, let him hand it over to my son al-Hussein, the Martyr, the Pure and the Assassinated. If the day of death comes to him, let him hand it over to his son, the master of the servants and worshipers Ali.If the day of death comes to him, let him hand it over to his son, Muhammad al-Baqir.If the day of death comes to him, let him hand it over to his son, Ja'far al-Sadiq.If the day of death comes to him, let him hand it over to his son, Musa al-Kadhim.If the day of death comes to him, let him hand it over to his son, Ali al-Redha.If the day of death comes to him, let him hand it over to his son, Muhammad al-Thiqa.If the day of death comes to him, let him hand it over to his son, Ali al-Nasih (The Advisor). If the day death of comes to him, let him hand it over to his son, al-Hassan al-Fadil. If the day of death comes to him, let him hand it over to his son, Muhammad the Mandate/Preserver of the Holy Family of Mohamad Peace be upon them all. These are the twelve Imams. Then there will be twelve Mahdi's after them. (If the day of death comes to him) let him hand it over to his son, the first of the close ones, he has three names, one like mine and my Father's: Abdollah (Servant of God), Ahmad and the third name is The Mahdi (the guided) and he is the first Believer."

111 - أخبرنا جماعة، عن أبي عبد الله الحسين بن علي بن سفيان البزوفري (1)، عن علي بن سنان الموصلي العدل، عن علي بن الحسين، عن أحمد بن محمد بن الخليل، عن جعفر بن أحمد المصري (2)، عن عمه الحسن بن علي، عن أبيه، عن أبي عبد الله جعفر بن محمد، عن أبيه الباقر، عن أبيه ذي الثفنات (3) سيد العابدين، عن أبيه الحسين الزكي الشهيد، عن أبيه أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم - في الليلة التي كانت فيها وفاته - لعلي عليه السلام: يا أبا الحسن أحضر صحيفة ودواة. فأملا رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم وصيته حتى انتهى إلى هذا الموضع فقال: يا علي إنه سيكون بعدي اثنا عشر إماما ومن بعدهم إثنا عشر مهديا، فأنت يا علي أول الاثني عشر إماما سماك الله تعالى في سمائه (4): عليا المرتضى، وأمير المؤمنين، والصديق الأكبر، والفاروق الأعظم، والمأمون، والمهدي، فلا تصح هذه الأسماء لاحد غيرك. يا علي أنت وصيي على أهل بيتي حيهم وميتهم، وعلى نسائي: فمن ثبتها لقيتني غدا، ومن طلقتها فأنا برئ منها، لم ترني (5) ولم أرها في عرصة القيامة، وأنت خليفتي على أمتي من بعدي. فإذا (1) حضرتك الوفاة فسلمها إلى ابني الحسن البر الوصول (2)، فإذا حضرته الوفاة فليسلمها إلى ابني الحسين الشهيد الزكي المقتول، فإذا حضرته الوفاة فليسلمها إلى ابنه سيد العابدين ذي الثفنات علي، فإذا حضرته الوفاة فليسلمها إلى ابنه محمد الباقر (3)، فإذا حضرته الوفاة فليسلمها إلى ابنه جعفر الصادق، فإذا حضرته الوفاة فليسلمها إلى ابنه موسى الكاظم، فإذا حضرته الوفاة فليسلمها إلى ابنه علي الرضا، فإذا حضرته الوفاة فليسلمها إلى ابنه محمد الثقة التقي، فإذا حضرته الوفاة فليسلمها إلى ابنه علي الناصح، فإذا حضرته الوفاة فليسلمها إلى ابنه الحسن الفاضل، فإذا حضرته الوفاة فليسلمها إلى ابنه محمد المستحفظ من آل محمد عليهم السلام. فذلك اثنا عشر إماما، ثم يكون من بعده اثنا عشر مهديا، (فإذا حضرته الوفاة) (4) فليسلمها إلى ابنه أول المقربين (5) له ثلاثة أسامي: اسم كإسمي واسم أبي وهو عبد الله وأحمد، والاسم الثالث: المهدي، هو أول المؤمنين (6).
- Kitab al-Ghayba of Sheikh al-Tusi, Page 150-151

The answers will be in several points.

First, the previous narration says that the number of Imam is twelve, and the number of Mahdis is twelve, and al-Hassan Ibn al-Hujjah is the last Imam and the Mahdi among the signs of its appearance is the emergence of the Yamani. Certainly, they are - Twelve - and they consider that al-Hujjah Ibn al-Hassan is from the twelve Mahdis and by this you come to the following result:

If al-Hujjah Ibn al-Hassan is from the twelve Mahdi only without the twelve Imam; then the number of Imam becomes eleven and not twelve as the previous narration state.

If al-Hujjah Ibn al-Hassan is from the twelve Mahdi and from the twelve Imam; then the total number of Imam and Mahdis becomes 23 and not 24.

Second, the narration that Ahmad al-Hassan use to support what he claim state that there will be twelve Mahdis but there is also another narration which says there will be eleven Mahdis in the same book narrated by al-Tusi:
Muhammad Ibn Abdallah Ibn Ja'far al-Hamiri, from his father, from Muhammad Ibn al-Hamid and Muhammad Ibn 'Issah, from Muhammad Ibn al-Fudhayl, from Abi Hamza, from Abi 'Abdillah (as) in a long narration that he said: "O Aba Hamza there will be from us (Ahlul-Bayt) eleven Mahdis after the Qaim from the sons of Hussain (as)."

محمد بن عبد الله بن جعفر الحميري، عن أبيه، عن محمد بن عبد الحميد (2) ومحمد بن عيسى، عن محمد بن الفضيل (3)، عن أبي حمزة، عن أبي عبد الله عليه السلام في حديث طويل أنه قال: يا أبا حمزة إن منا بعد القائم أحد عشر مهديا من ولد الحسين عليه السلام (4).
- Kitab al-Ghayba of Sheikh al-Tusi, Page 478

Here it says twelve and it is written as the other previous text except for the beginning.
Muntakhab al-Basair, of what narrated al-Sayed Ali Ibn Abdel-Hamid from his chain to al-Sadiq (as) that he said "There will be from us (Ahlul-Bayt) twelve Mahdis after the Qaim from the sons of Hussain (as)."
7 - منتخب البصائر: مما رواه السيد علي بن عبد الحميد بإسناده عن الصادق عليه السلام أن منا بعد القائم عليه السلام اثنا عشر مهديا من ولد الحسين عليه السلام.
- Bihar al-Anwar of Allamah Baqir al-Majlissi, Vol.53, Page 148

The question: Are the Mahdis eleven or twelve? Ahmad al-Hassan can not reply to this confusion because he does not believe in the science of hadith (ilm al-rijal) then if he takes the first story he must also take the second story and this contradicts what he preaches.

Third, we (Ithna Ashari) say that al-Hujjah Ibn al-Hassan is in occultation and he is alive but we don't know where he exactly is. According to our pillars and our belief who is the Hujjah (proof of Allah) at this time? Is al-Hujjah Ibn al-Hassan or Ahmad al-Hassan? If you answer Ahmad al-Hassan then the role of al-Hujjah Ibn al-Hassan collapse. If you answer al-Hujjah Ibn al-Hassan so what is the evidence for Ahmad al-Hassan being the proof? And how can he be al-Hujjah?

Fourth, we find that the narration of Ahmad al-Hassan contradicts the narration of the twelve Mahdis - as they preach - So how Ahmad al-Hassan can say that he is al-Yamani and at the same time that he is one of the twelve Mahdi? Knowing that the twelve Mahdis comes after al-Hujjah Ibn al-Hassan and are among the signs of his appearance. How it does not contradict itself and how can he reconcile this and that?

Fifth, the narration that Ahmad al-Hassan use say, "If the day of death comes to him let him hand it over to his son, the first of the close ones, he has three names, one like mine and my Father's: Abdollah (Servant of God), Ahmad and the third name is The Mahdi (the guided) and he is the first Believer." So the question we ask, did al-Hujjah Ibn al-Hassan die (as the others) to give the command to Ahmad al-Hassan?

Sixth, the narration that Ahmad al-Hassan use have no authentic chain, and this is the case if the group of Ahmad al-Hassan wanted to use narration at least they should use it on the basis that they are authentic but instead of that they show the illness of the chain and show that it contain unknow people.

Regarding Ahmad Ibn Muhammad Ibn al-Khalil it is stated by Sheikh 'Ali al-Nimari al-Shahrudi in his Mustadrak 'Ilm al-Rijal where he say: "Ahmad Ibn Muhammad al-Khalil Abu 'Abdallah: He didn't mention him (nothing about him)."
1532 - أحمد بن محمد بن الخليل أبو عبد الله: لم يذكروه،
- Mustadrak 'Ilm al-Rijal, Vol.1, Page 434

Regarding Ja'far Ibn Ahmad al-Masry it is stated by Sheikh 'Ali al-Nimari al-Shahrudi in his Mustadrak 'Ilm al-Rijal where he say: "Ja'far Ibn Ahmad al-Masry: He didn't mention him (nothing about him)."
2810 - جعفر بن محمد بن علي المصري: لم يذكروه.
- Mustadrak 'Ilm al-Rijal, Vol.2, Page 208

The claim of Ahmad al-Hassan being the son of the Mahdi, His Messenger, His Successor, and al-Yamani

The claim of Ahmad al-Hassan being the son of the Mahdi, His Messenger, His Successor, and al-Yamani

Ahmad al-Hassan say:

"And I don't say that I am the Imam al-Mahdi (as) but I am the first Mahdi from his sons (as) and his messenger, his successor and the Yamani."
ولم أقل إني الإمام المهدي (ع)، بل أنا المهدي الأول من ولده(ع) ورسوله ووصيه واليماني.